Bloody tyre threads /shakes fist I had the S20 Evos on my Z1000SX. Not a bad tyre. I'm trying the Z8s this weekend.
This is my point, I don't think there are 'properly' bad tyres these days! Some older models being run out, perhaps. Even still though... My point to the OP was that I use a sportier tyre, which should be worse in the wet, and slower to warm up. And it's fine in the winter, I don't wheel spin with more power. Maybe it's throttle application? And of course something like the PR3 or 4 would be a lot better for that application. However my Diablo Rosso Corsa can also be a bit better on a track. It's down to picking one for the correct purpose. And preference. If you're using it more for sunny rides, M7RR. If you're using it year round and in the wet, for higher mileages, PR3/4. Both are great tyres.
Honestly, the M7rr is a fantastic tyre in the winter. It's not a summer tyre. They are something else on wet roads. I've switched my bikes over to use the zx6r for commuting because it's got the M7rrs on it.
I agree that it's hard to find a bad tyre these days. I will second reds comment the Bridgestone t30 are excellent in both wet and dry. One more thing to consider from the op sounds like clutch slip to me?
Thank you for your thoughts! Any other recommendation is welcomed. I will also check the Bridgestone tyres. How bad an idea is to change only the rear tyre and keep the front Pirelli?
Volant was saying they're a summer tyre. I was supporting my earlier comment about them being excellent all year round (when I mentioned my track days on them)
I need new tyres on my STR as well. This is my first bike and it came with Pirelli Angels. How does these compares to M7RR and PR4?
Angels are a good tyre too. Don't expect any massive improvement from changing other than what you get from new tyres.
After some research, reading reviews and asking friends' opinion I have to choose between these: Street-Sport tyres Metzeler M7rr vs. Michelin Pilot Power 3 or touring tyres Michelin Pilot Road 3 vs. Pilot Road 4 I'm leaning towards the M7rr, as it is newer than PP3 and I don't think I will comute that much or travel very long distances with my bike to need Pilot Road tyres. I'm pretty sure the M7rr can handle a trip to 675.cc fest 2016 a lot better than what I have now.
Not heard a bad word about M7rr But new tyres are being developed all the time - only just heard about http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2015/november/metzeler-announce-new-roadtec-01/
Nice, but the Metzeler Roadtec tyres are in the Pilot Road category, sport-touring. I don't think I want that type of tyres on my bike.
there's a competition to win a set of these on the other forum that shall not be named (it starts with Duc and ends in ati)
People need to read the thread and not just pick up on a few words I've posted mid thread. The M7rr is an all year round tyre. It's great both in winter and in summer. Someone suggested it's a summer only tyre, my response was "it's not a summer tyre". I've had these tyres on my zx6r since March or April 2015. I've got a running review thread on tankslap. I'm not posting the link again, 675cc will ban me if I do. I ride all year round. I commute most days. I like a fast ride at the weekends. I do the occasional trackday. I'm getting about 6,000 miles from a rear. They work on hot track tarmac and cold wet roads. As an all round tyre I've yet to find better, and I do get through my tyres.
its possible george could have mis-interpreted your previous post, what with not being from these here shores
6000 miles isnt enough for me as a commuting tyre, would be changing every 2 months. on my STR, i am on Pilot Road 4's now, and previously PR3's, and always get at least 12k miles from them, commuting all weathers, chucking around weekends when not on Daytona, although not done any trackdays on them. i normally get 12k, tyres and chain/sprockets all done at same time on each 12k service, to minimise time off road. tried a few different, and find these the best for my use as an all round tyre. have M7RR's on the Daytona at the moment and have used in the wet fine, but prefer the PR4's in the wet.