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If Triumph made a RR, would it be better than this?

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  1. martin675

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    ImageUploadedBy675cc1458739759.236410.jpg im going for this one
     
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  2. 675KPW

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    @Red675 ... I get what you mean, but would be a devil of a job to put straight sunrays on the bumpy fairings.

    @martin675 .... you might just make it down to Tesco and back on that, but don't fancy your chances on the A14!
     
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  3. 675KPW

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    Here's a few pics of the vinyl wrap that I have added to some of the parts so far:
    Nose...
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    Side panels.... (with ebay decals that arrived today) DSCN4280.JPG

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    Tank cover.... DSCN4285.JPG

    and original mudguard.... DSCN4287.JPG

    now I need to paint bellypan black and seat unit white.
     
  4. Stu675

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    Was the wrap a pre cut kit?
     
  5. That's a nice wrap, where did you get it
     
  6. Rossgo

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    Love that...and it's the right size for me haha
     
  7. 675KPW

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    This is just car wrapping sheet material I bought from ebay. I stuck the sheet onto the parts and then trimmed by hand using a wallpaper cutting wheel... this is like a pizza cutter roller but only about 1" diameter.
    The black lines I trimmed using a A4 paper trimmer to get true straight edges, before sticking them on.

    I had cut sheet before with a Stanley knife but found it would cut lines into the paint, so tried the roller cutter and it works without cutting the gel coat of the fairings. Doing it freehand requires a bit of practice, patience and concentration! Its not perfect but pretty good and pleased so far.
     
  8. edd1e

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    Wow you did a gd job there mate
     
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  9. Stu675

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    Scary! but at least it's only cheap race fairings.
     
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  11. Like it . Looks like yamaha retro colours.

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  12. 675KPW

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    The S1000RR went into the BMW dealer for an annual service today.... oil, seal, filter and brake fluid change... I was gob smacked at the cost....£184 including VAT..... I was expecting much higher!
    For comparison the 675R went last week for its triumph dealer annual service... oil, seal and filter... £199 including VAT.
    Now bring on some good weather please!
     
  13. D41

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    That's a wrap??

    /Vader voice......."Impressive...Most impressive".
     
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  14. 675KPW

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    A trip to Halfords a couple of weeks ago resulted in:- 1x 500ml grey primer, 1x 500ml black Gloss, 1x 500ml white primer, 2x 300ml BMW alpine white....and I found a use for my daughters old play shed....

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    Autoglym polish and they went semi shiny... I'm happy with that!
     
  15. 675KPW

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    First Sunday of this month I did my doughnut run to Sunny Hunny on her as the last opportunity before fitting the track fairings. I find it very easy to ride on the road and almost as comfortable as the 675R.
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    So I've been on with fitting track fairings over the passed few weeks, and finishing the colours with the vinyl. Also fitted some Eazi-grip EVO tank grips.
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    I don't intend putting numbers or logos on, as its only for my track day use and I'm quite happy with the way its turned out.
    Just hope I can ride it well enough on track to do it justice!!
     
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  16. edd1e

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    that looks fantastic :) great job.
     
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  17. 675KPW

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    Latest update...
    Trailered the RR to Rockingham National circuit for a track day with No Limits. In inters for the day, spent the morning cautiously getting familiar with the circuit and the bike. and picked up some speed in the afternoon. Circuit is good for cornering, with only short straights, which made me lazy using 2nd gear only all the way round. IMG_20160507_163109488_HDR.jpg

    Tyres were slightly squared off road tyres BT-016 Pro Hypersport and suspension left at standard setting recommendations, so wasn't too bothered with the pace and just wanted to get some saddle time.

    Today I had a new pair of Continental Race Attack Comp. Endurance fitted and the suspension set up by Stef of Tyres for Bkes.
    Now looking forward to Cadwell on 19th with Black & White Trackdays to feel the improvement
     
  18. 675KPW

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    So I've had the S1000RR nearly a year, and I haven't added any updates for a while. I email my US mate after my trackdays so will add the same reports here too... here's the first one from 19th May trackday with B&W bikes....

    "So today was at Cadwell Park (the narrow track with the "mountain" section.) This was under partial instruction... the instructor had 4 pupils so he spent some time with each, but could monitor us too.

    One session he followed me, was impressed with the speed of the S1 off the bends and down the straights, then should have come passed for me to follow him. Eventually he passed me late under braking to get in front. He pointed out I could use more track out at the white lines, needed to turn quicker, but was happy with my body position. We did more sessions together and eventually it started to come together. He confirmed my thoughts that I was over braking up to the turn point, so I have practiced easing off brakes a little earlier and allowing the bike to run in to the apex. With a wider line into the corners it seemed to create a feeling of less speed at first, but at the apex and exit point it's apparent the speed was higher. It also feels a smoother and less aggressive method.

    Late afternoon sessions were like having an empty track, as I could pass the slower riders quite easily (S1 POWER!!!!) and I was not held up. At the end of the day my knees and neck were aching. The instructor said I had made great progress today , pleased to see his instruction making a big difference, and now I needed track time to practice getting used to setting the correct speed to the apex.

    A good day.... and tired now!"

    picture is at Barn corner, the instructor is Mark on his R1.
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    Reviewing my camera footage afterwards, I was no quicker in lap time on the S1 than previously on the 07 Daytona. :( But I do know the BM was some an indicated 10 to 12mph higher speed at the start finish line. A faster bike.. but not a quicker bike... yet!
    Kevin
     
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    And so (for those still mildly interested!) onto more Black & White Trackdays, Cadwell Park 14th (Instructed) and 15th September.

    Here's the report... (of course...it's jazzed up for my US buddies)

    "I had a great couple of days on track last Wednesday and Thursday, despite delayed starts both days because of fog!!!!

    Loaded the bike on the trailer on Tuesday night, and filled the car with Tent, sleeping gear, plus the usual Trackday essentials. Set off at 5.45AM on Wednesday morning for two days of Instructed track days at Cadwell Park, Lincolnshire. Lincolnshire is the home county of Guy Martin, and the Lowes twins (Sam and Alex), and very green and rural countryside with lots of winding country roads so a popular area for motorcycles. Cadwell Park race circuit is the very narrow track, with twisty sections, high speed curves and the mountain section - great for wheelies and jumps!

    First day was with full instruction, 1 instructor to 2 pupils. My instructor Bobby (@trackdaybob) is based locally and spends a lot of time at this circuit, the other pupil James lives 5 minutes from this track and a regular track day rider. There were two groups: Novice/Intermediate, and Intermediate/fast.... we were Intermediate/fast and first group on track. Scheduled to start at 9am, 30 minutes on track each group with lunch at 12 to 1pm, we should have 3 morning sessions. But thick fog caused it to be delayed, because the marshals did not have full line of sight between marshal posts. Having only used the S1000RR on track a couple of times before (the last time was May) my apprehension was immense. The delay did not help, normally the anticipation is short but this time it was prolonged. We spent the morning chatting bikes. James said he had could lap at 1m45s! My thought now was how was I going to keep up?
    So Cadwell in August 2015 on the Triumph 675, lap times were around 2mins. In May 2015 on the S1000RR lap times were around 2m5s... yes 5 seconds slower on a faster bike! With the Triumph I remember seeing 125mph on the short straight, whereas the BMW was 136mph... the BMW was quicker in a straight line but I was slower thro the bends Bobby asked me what were my objectives? That was simple to answer: sub 2 minute lap times, and to corner quicker. It is often said that the 1000cc trackday riders can't corner and only know how to go in a straight line!
    At 12pm the fog had cleared, so we had two 15 minute sessions before a rescheduled 1.15 to 2pm lunch break. There were a couple of damp patches under the trees where the fog had dripped, so we rode around these. Bobby's assessment of these two sessions was spot on, I was "wooden", too tense and letting the bike control me. His comprehensive explanations changed my thoughts completely from what am I doing?, to I can and will do this. I needed to control the bike, force it where I wanted it to go.
    Session 3 started at 2pm. Bobby told me to lead, so James and he could follow. OK...let's do it! Half lap to get settled, now go! Full gas down the short straight, travelling quicker I missed the usual turn point, but pushed harder on the bars, running a wide arc in the left hander, get a greater lean on, so got it round and back to the next turn point, but quicker than I previously had gone... so keeping on the speed through the next 2 right hand bends, full gas down the straight, brake harder than previous, push hard right.... and kept up the more forceful riding for the full 30 minutes. The sun was out, I was sweating when I got back to the paddock. Parked up, helmet off and I looked at Bobby and James, expecting more critical advice. Bobby laughs and says "we are going to have you drug tested!" After the wide first corner he thought oh dear, but I had caught them off guard and they needed to work to catch up, and they told me I was leaving darkies out of the bends!
    We had 3 further 30 minute sessions, taking it in turns to lead. Bobby's advice throughout was progressive, driving us on, harder on the gas and brakes, smoothness and accuracy more important as you increase speed. We had a great time. The afternoon sessions were a leap forward, a massive confidence boost and I achieved several goals: easily sub 2 minute laps, faster cornering and could keep up with James.

    Second day was another level of worry! Thursday was like a standard UK track day with three groups: Fast, Intermediates and Novice. I had booked Intermediate as that was where I had been before, but when signing on Bobby had adjusted this so James and I were now Fast group. Heck! fast group for the first time!! And its foggy again... delayed until midday, the schedule changed as per the previous revised lunch break and two short pre-lunch sessions per group. The nerves were back and I then found out the fast group included some racers... I wandered up the paddock and it looked like I was the only non racer, (James had a numbered bike and van too! - but never told if he raced.) I found the lass I had spoken to the day before, she had done some racing and she was also in the fast group.
    Now I was feeling out of my depth!
    First two sessions I was steady, then stunned by the proper fast guys as they passed and I barely kept up with anyone else. I knew I was wasting time waiting for the fastest riders to come past but I stuck to the lines so they knew where I would be riding. After lunch I went out for session 3 with another instructor, his analysis was spot on... To forget about the fast guys and concentrate on your own riding, my lines were very good, hang off a little more and be more forceful using pegs and bars to turn quicker. All this was taken on board, instantly feeling quicker than the previous day, both through the corners and down the straights. Under max acceleration, the bike would snake unless perfectly upright. I could sense a slight drifting in the fast bends, trying to brake later and harder the rear was lighter... I started to "feel" the bike.
    The last two sessions, I was feeling an increased confidence. I was still being passed, but by a less number of riders. By keeping at it, I felt I was getting quicker and even managed to catch and pass a couple of other riders. James had been let onto the track a short time before me, but as I rode I realised I was catching him... so the chase was on, I was faster down the straights, and realised I was also faster than him through the bends. I now found I was talking to myself " brake, push, go, etc". I caught and passed him and on I went.... A major step forward!!!
    Rolling into waiting area before the final session of the day, I stopped behind James. Looking left I see Ivan Linton (TT winner) sitting on a Honda RC45 in Aaron Slight Castrol livery...(the bike belongs to Joey Dunlop Foundation) and on my right a Race battered S1000RR ridden by Phil Crowe (a renowned UK Superbike, TT and Club racer.) Though once on track it wasn't long before they came pass

    An excellent couple of days"

    reality... S1000RR holding up TDB!
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