Hello all, Just got a totally stock 13+ Daytona 675 after many many years of reading about them and hearing that glorious engine on the road. As it's stock, any tips on what might make them even better would be greatly received, especially as to quickshifter options.
Welcome to the forum, always great to see new owners. The stock 13+ Daytona is a great bike, my first test ride was on a stock bike and tbh it felt just as good as the 675R on the road, I just preferred the looks (and the bling) on the R, the quickshifter does take the riding experience up a notch though in my opinion, especially with a nice exhaust. Easiest option is the Triumph Translogic? one which is plug and play, its non adjustable but on mine at least works great at virtually all (sensible) rpm and speeds. I haven't got experience with third party options such as HM or Healtech, they will involve a bit more wiring but may have more features, such as adjustable kill times. If its totally stock, pictures will show us, then getting rid of the standard number plate hanger (and plate) would be my first choice, better used as a snow shovel in this weather, the Evotech tail tidy is by far the best option looks and quality wise, but is understandably more expensive than the bits of bent metal from other brands. The standard exhaust sounds ok but if you can afford (or even find) a quality slip on such as Arrow that will release that glorious sound you mentioned, and get rid of that massive heavy silencer box under the bike. The 1050 throttle tube is another popular mod which gives more of a quick action throttle, only about £10, only if you don't think its fast enough already or have to take two grabs at the throttle to get to 100%. Other "aesthetic" mods are down to personal preference, if you're not carrying pillions then removing the pillion footrests and fitting a pillion pad cover improves the looks IMO, as do led indicators. Although now I read this I realise I'm trying to make everybody's bike the same as mine, but we all have different tastes so maybe wait till you ride the bike, you may just love it as it is, or take a look around the forum and see which mods you really want first.
Welcome to our friendly little forum Chogs, I honestly don't think I can add much to Wobbley's comprehensive suggestions
Many thanks for the welcome. I think my first step is the QS, if only for poops and giggles. The Triumph QS seems discontinued. Is there a way to find out which sensors fit - or will any sensor with the right connector work? Looking forward to making this bike my own and getting to know it.
The Triumph ones come up for sale on here sometimes, there is an aftermarket one for sale here HM quick shifter plus | 675.cc • Triumph 675 Forum Also oem still showing in stock at fowlers Triumph T2082216 Quickshifter Assy, Standard Shift (fowlersparts.co.uk) Its an interesting question if you can fit any sensor to the oem connector to make it work, if its possible then I don't know why all the aftermarket options come with their own control box and associated wiring, could they just supply the correct size pull type sensor with a matching plug to fit the triumph connector? Its interesting to me because my Thruxton R came from the factory with quickshifter connector, but the option was never offered even as an optional extra. The connector had a blanking plug but was still enabled in the ECU. I just fitted a standard push type sensor, wired it to the supplied connector and it works fine, within the limitations of the slightly clunky gearbox. So the short answer is, I'm not sure if the "Triumph" Translogic sensor is just a standard 2 wire switch type sensor or not, but looking at the wiring diagram its just a 2 wire connection switching to ground, so there's a good chance it is. The only possible issue with using a non standard sensor directly to the ecu is the cut times are non adjustable, even in the map with Tuneecu, so if the force required to activate the sensor was different to the Triumph one then it may affect the shifts. The quickshifter on the Thruxton is mainly for "pops and giggles", especially as it still cuts when you use the clutch and with the right rpm makes massive bangs, but on the Daytona it genuinely makes the bike feel faster as well having no gaps in the acceleration when you normally back off the throttle.
Welcome Chog, I have the Triumph Quickshifter my 675 and 765 and works really well.Don’t know if you’ve had a Quickshifter on any other bikes before but if not do be aware that they don’t work under a certain rpm.I wish I had know this when I first fitted mine because the result was a very unpleasant crunching grinding sound when I tried to shift up with no clutch the first time at 3000rpm.I took the bike to a garage and explained that the Quickshifter wasn’t working.After getting some helpful advice I felt such a twat that it was ages before I went back to them. Have fun on your Triumph
Many thanks for the feedback here, very much appreciated! I perhaps should really start a new thread on this? My assumptions here was that the kill times, sensitivity and RPMS were pre-set within the ECU, so the Triumph QS plug just needed a sensor and any brand of sensor could be used, Triumph, HM, Translogic etc, but for any control over the kill etc, an additional module could be plugged in between the coils and the shift rod sensor (a more traditional standalone setup) and so not using the pre-installed Triumph plug to the EUC. I might be over thinking things here, but that's more or less what I see. In which case, I can try to use my sensor off my HM Plus (currently on my GSXR1000 so loom won't work) and attach that to the factory Triumph plug. Does this make sense, or am I totally off here?
No idea mate,sounds like you know what you’re talking about.My bikes don’t have oem ecu’s so the time is adjustable in the parameters in the software.Apparently,I get this done by someone that knows what they’re doing
As I said, that's all I did on the Thruxton to get it working but can't 100% speak for the Daytona as my Triumph unit was fitted as standard, also maybe somebody who fitted the Triumph unit themselves could confirm if it works out of the box or needs to be enabled in the map by the dealer, there's no option in tuneecu to enable/disable the quickshifter. You can monitor the quickshifter input though on Tuneecu, and could check if the ecu is seeing the sensor input successfully without having to test ride. If you have a pull sensor that will physically fit then give it a try, I think the connector is somewhere under the tank on the LH side, just remove the seat then the two fixing screws at the front and it will lift up without disconnecting anything.
When I used a Triumph Quickshifter with a standard loom and ecu it was plug and play. The connector is right next to the ecu on the loom,Couldn’t have been easier