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Front subframe question (dash)

Discussion in 'General' started by gninnam, Jun 29, 2024.

  1. gninnam

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    Need to repair the front subframe that hold the dash and the nose cone and trying to work out what it is?
    I thought it was/is aluminium but not 100% sure - any one help?

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  2. It's been a while since I had a look at a broken one, but I think it's cast aluminium (so not especially easy to weld).

    That's assuming the Gen 3 one is the same construction as the Gen 1/Gen 2
     
  3. gninnam

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    Thanks Colin.
    I think it is not plain alu - I can bu a brand new one from Fowlers for £170 but would rather not!!
     
  4. I'm pretty sure the subframe on the Gen 3 must be a different design to the earlier Daytonas?

    If for any reason it's not, then I do have a spare early one.
     
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  5. gninnam

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    I have a feeling they are different but will check
     
  6. StMarks

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    Fwiw I have broken two of those OEM front subframes, albiet on the earlier version.They are different.
    They are a cast alloy, and susceptible to snapping.
    First one I broke at Donnington was obliterated.
    Next one was at Cadwell the same year, and only snapped one arm off. I successfully welded it back together with my Mig welder. It works fine for track, but I have a perfect one for road use, as the mirror mounts from it.

    So, if you've got any mates who are fabricators & can do aluminium welding, it may be worth asking ??
     
  7. gninnam

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    Or, if you have a blowlamp, a dremmel & you're feeling like a challenge...
    There are those aluminium brazing rods you can get !
     
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    Not correct I'm afraid.
    The front subframe is the same on all Daytona versions from 2005 until the Gen3 was introduced in 2013.
    The all new version has a completely different front subframe for the different fairings etc.
    Hth
     
  10. gninnam

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    I already have the brazing rods as I had to do an engine block once so will give it a go....
     
  11. gninnam

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    Info was from the triumph store! Ah well.
     
  12. StMarks

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    It has to be worth a go if you already have them doesn't it..?
    Fwiw I spent ages making sure that mine was lined up perfectly & meeting surfaces were nice & tight....
    ... Then I welded it, but without remembering to set a groove into the upper surface. :wall:
    It was solid & straight, but I had to grind the top half off, then V groove it before welding it yet again.
     
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  13. gninnam

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    Agree - will give it a go and see what I end up with. Can't be any worse than it is already :rolleyes:
     
  14. If you get stuck with it, I have a good friend who is a top notch aluminium welder (used to work for Prodrive). If anyone can do it perfectly, it will be him.
     
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    Appreciate - will see if I can find my rods and give it a go and if it looks crap, then I will be in touch :)
     
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    Your repair looks solid enough, did you manage it yourself with those brazing rods or was it alloy welded in the end?
     
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    Took it to a local welding company as I couldn't find my rods....
     

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