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Discussion in 'Rants & Raves' started by peter hawkins, Mar 9, 2020.

  1. Stu675

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    No it doesn’t. Do you know what a Coronavirus is? It’s just a cold/flu like the 200 others that we’ve always dealt with. That paper did not predict anything.
    I could write a paper saying that next year the stock market will fall (or rise). Do you think that next year when it falls (or rises) someone’s going to look me up and say wow how did you know this would happen?
    Have you read every other paper on a prediction that didn’t come true?
     
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  2. Back on track with and the EU powerhouse but away from commilingus ramblings.

    The EU and the Scottish Government just became irrelevant.

    In recent weeks we have seen the power of the sovereign nation state deal with a crisis in a way that has not been seen since 1945. The British Government has been able to spend almost without limit to keep our people safe. It has taken other extraordinary measures to keep us in our homes and to keep essential services running. Other European countries have taken similar measures.
     
  3. SW73

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    What I found interesting and actually quite sad tonight at the government's press briefing was how short a time it has taken for the scientists who flank our glorious leaders to be compromised by the odd idea that any criticism of government harms the national war effort. The guy from the daily mail (FFS...I know) asked a good question. Why are the Germans etc conducting ten times as many tests as we are? Michael oddball Gove....waffle, waffle indoors, outdoors, nhs, nightingale etc. Scientist....waffle, waffle...no answer. I am a scientist and I was embarrassed for her. The real answer is....while starving the NHS of money and importing cheap nurses and dr's from abroad rather than training our own, settling law suits from private island no tax branson and having no long term planning, we rather took our eye off the ball and have no kit! Oh...and all those folk out applauding the NHS having spent ten years nodding while we talked about the featherbedded public sector...there is a mechanism available for supporting the NHS... it's called not voting Tory!
    As usual of course.... No magic money tree, bailout o clock is here. Not for infrastructure, education, housing, NHS, young folk or worthwhile projects....but for Branson, easyJet, billionaires blah blah.
    I'm not sure how much old folk are going to like the rationing of public resources now the over 80's get to stay at home and die and the over 60's don't get a ventilator....
     
  4. Jay311275

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    am I hearing this right..... Footballers are to keep Full pay for doing sweet FA, whilst the hard working ground staff etc who struggle to keep a roof over their heads etc are being told its Furlough or hop it.... WTF is wrong with this world FFS
     
  5. SW73

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    Yes...indeed it's so. The billionaires who run these clubs from tax exile land are letting the rest of us pick up the tab for their staff. They can't cut the wages of players without consent as that would allow their star assets to walk away from their contracts as free agents. The PFA have supplied guidance to the players saying not to agree anything. All good business practice in broken Britain...the little people get stiffed... business as usual at the top. I think the phrase moral vacuum sums it up nicely. I do have some sympathy for the players. Why should they give up pay so the owners can have more? In any ethical business, everyone bar the lowest paid would defer wages until better times and no one would lose their job. In any ethical business seems to be the problem.
     
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  6. Jay311275

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    This is Scumfuckery on Soooooooo naby levels
     
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  7. peter hawkins

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    Have a read of my other post makes interesting reading also have official figures for this virus to people who have died without underlying problems is "44" some what less than they are making out spoke to a doctor we know yesterday he says is a lot of buncome as he put it ,the 44 is the real figure they should be explaining to everyone he says they should be no lockdown at all the only people we are protecting is the sick and elderly and that is no disrespect to any of them or there families.
     
  8. philly46

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    Better to get the majority to sit still and figure this out rather than carry on as normal. If nothing happens to your family then all this nothing will have been worth it.
     
  9. What about the financial disaster that is going to be left behind? To say nothing is going to happen to everyone's family because of all this nothing lacks sense.
     
  10. philly46

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    So death or work through a crisis?

    Guess I'll die then.
     
  11. peter hawkins

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    Just through interest who was around in 1991 when Spanish flu killed 50 million plus don't think there was any kind of lockdown back then.
     
  12. philly46

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    Cool, let's follow that example and kill another 50 million.
     
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  13. GazP

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    I thought the Spanish flu pandemic was WW1 time?
     
  14. philly46

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    The reason the Spanish flu killed so many is because the US wouldnt report on it, there was a news lockdown due to WW1, so noone knew.
    They couldnt control it at home, then they started shipping soldiers into Europe, and had the same war reporting restrictions in France, UK, for same reason.

    As Spain were not involved in the war, were neutral, they reported on it first which is why its called Spanish Flu.

    Today, with the widespread reporting and lockdowns we should hope to avoid those numbers, but probably got off to a bad start as China didnt report it properly for a few weeks.
     
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  16. SW73

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    Fingers crossed the PM recovers but this is becoming like the USSR where the populace are assured that all is well with our glorious leader and he's only been embalmed as a precaution! Raab emphatically denied there was much wrong with him, good spirits etc, though he last spoke with him on Saturday! These are worrying times which need serious leadership. I do hope someone vaguely sensible is at the tiller.
     
  17. Red675

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  18. Red675

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    Theyre doing half a million tests a week in Germany btw, AND taking in casualties from their neighbouring countries.

    92 dead yesterday.

    Wake the fuck up.
     
  19. peter hawkins

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    I have just read that the uk will have the worse death rate of all the world 66,000 plus well I have got to say that is bloody stupid statement to make china only had 3000 deaths if you believe there figures mind you there is only 1.6 billion over there and are little of 60 million will 66,000 deaths "HOW" is that possible even I% of the country did not lock down that still leaves 99% indoors those figures do not add up at all.The states think they might get 25 to 30,000..My point is we always have to have the worst of anything bad that is around I thought this time we would be more positive and better than other countries but only to be disappointed .these models on computers they use only give info to what the person in front of it puts in so I think that says it all.
     
  20. GazP

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    I wouldn’t get bogged down in the stats mate. Anyone can put what ever spin they want on the figures as it’s all up to interpretation.

    When we get out the other end of this we can ride our bikes! Happy days!
     
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